tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9181661843785521752.post1984703982752785789..comments2024-03-03T08:46:56.169-08:00Comments on A Very Creepy Blog: 1984: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (Part 2)Quiddityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13986124694445522253noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9181661843785521752.post-68566373218884651232014-11-02T04:06:12.163-08:002014-11-02T04:06:12.163-08:00Maroto's Tomb of the Gods began in the early 7...Maroto's Tomb of the Gods began in the early 70's (in Vampi as you say) but wasn't finished until Maroto retook it again at the end of the 70's (which form part of the Idi Amin series later appearing in 1984). So in fact it's a long continuing series interrupted for a couple of years.Diego Cordobahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03217884448976689435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9181661843785521752.post-26112889021038476322014-08-17T19:32:27.766-07:002014-08-17T19:32:27.766-07:00Thanks for the info Diego, its greatly appreciated...Thanks for the info Diego, its greatly appreciated.<br /><br />Regarding Tomb of the Gods, I thought that was an older series of Maroto's? I recall when the stories had appeared in Vampirella earlier on, they were a a couple of years old, as made obvious by the fact that Maroto's art for new stories he was doing for Warren were far superior than the artwork on the Tomb of the Gods stories. The Idi Amin stories have arguably the best art of Maroto's that ever appeared in a Warren magazine. Were these done years later?Quiddityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13986124694445522253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9181661843785521752.post-56725085237544538362014-06-10T21:26:08.150-07:002014-06-10T21:26:08.150-07:00Hi again, Brian. Actually the Idi Amin story was p...Hi again, Brian. Actually the Idi Amin story was part of Maroto's original series titled Tomb of the Gods, and a couple of the stories had previously appeared in Eerie, but not all. DuBay took the remaining stories from the series and changed the text completely, creating a totally new story about Idi Amin reincarnated as a woman (and not making much sense either).<br /><br />It seems all the material done by the Spanish artists for 1984, wasn't done for it specifically, but rather done at an earlier time and never used before. Since DuBay needed material for his sci-fi magazine, he used many of these "unused stories". Case in point with Gonzalez's Lullaby done in 1974 (fragments of it appear in the book Cuando el Comic es Arte devoted to Gonzalez). The same goes for The last of the red hot lovers drawn by Ortiz (again in 1974, fragments also appearing in the Cuando el Comic es Arte devoted to his work) and written originally by Toutain, the director of the art agaency in Barcelona. The story was done as a showcase of Ortiz's work for Warren (Ortiz didn't work for the Barcelona art agency), and since it dealt with vikings fighting for a piece of land probably didn't fit for the horror mags Warren published back then. It was later picked by DuBay, and the story completely changed into one of infertile homosexuals fighting to obtain the last remaining virgin, if my memory serves me right (the DuBay version is so convoluted as to make little sense). And The Harvest by Ortiz was originally done for Creepy but never used for obvious reasons, and later appearing in 1984.<br /><br />So my guess is that all the material done by the Spanish for 1984 came from other sources and weren't done particularly for that magazine.<br /><br />DuBay not only changed the Spaniard's stories, he changed all the other stories as well. Wally Wood's King of the Wolrd became something else altogether, DuBay adding new panels he drew on top of it, which drove Woody mad, and he vowed never to work for Warren again. The same thing happened to Corben's Mutant World, which DuBay also re-wrote, and might explain why Corben didn't work for them again, though by that time Toutain was representing Corben in Europe, and his work was selling like hotcakes over there, so Corben had no need for Warren anymore.<br /><br />Hope this might be of help to understanding some of the things that went behind 1984/94.Diego Cordobahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03217884448976689435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9181661843785521752.post-4356517229068188202014-06-08T09:02:39.295-07:002014-06-08T09:02:39.295-07:00The Idi Amin story by Maroto and DuBay, was in fac...The Idi Amin story by Maroto and DuBay, was in fact, a totally different story Maroto did outside of Warren, concerning Egyptian gods and goddesses coming back from the dead. DuBay had this thing of buying material from the Spaniards, and then getting his writers or himself to re-write the whole thing again, even with a totally different storyline, as is the case with these Maroto stories that have nothing to do with either Idi Amin or Tricky Dick Nixon.<br /><br />DuBay's practice would go even into material done by the Americans, as was the case with Corben's series, such as Mutant World, which was also re-written by him (he actually re-wrote most of the stories in 1984/94, which is why they all seem to be written by the same person). I think the only series he didn't touch was Frank Thorne's Ghita, probably because nobody can understand what the hell's going on there...Diego Cordobahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03217884448976689435noreply@blogger.com